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		Autor: joannacholuj		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zeby dokonac syntezy trzeba najpierw dokonac analizy :) wszystko pod kontrola, pozdrawiam]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeby dokonac syntezy trzeba najpierw dokonac analizy 🙂 wszystko pod kontrola, pozdrawiam</p>
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		Autor: Radosny Człowiek		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2018 16:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[W odpowiedzi do &lt;a href=&quot;https://bialczynski.pl/slowianie-tradycje-kultura-dzieje/dzieje/boski-ist-a-flagi-narodowe-slowian/#comment-50748&quot;&gt;joannacholuj&lt;/a&gt;.

Nie ANalizuj wszystkiego Joanno, bo braknie Ci Czasu. Wyciągaj wnioski ze Swych własnych doświadczeń i na podstawie zdobytej poprzez obserwację zdarzeń, Swej własnej Wiedzy, konfrontuj to ze Swym Matczynym, Miłującym Sercem i rozpoznawaj PRAWDĘ. Tylko PRAWDA sprawia, że odczuwasz Spokój, Radość i Wolność. Wszystko inne jest zniewalającym kłamstwem. Ta Prawda podpowie CI jakie są Naturalne Prawa, Zasady, Reguły dziania się Rzeczy i dokonuj SYNtezy Tego Jako Całości. Tym KIMŚ właśnie JESTEŚ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W odpowiedzi do <a href="https://bialczynski.pl/slowianie-tradycje-kultura-dzieje/dzieje/boski-ist-a-flagi-narodowe-slowian/#comment-50748">joannacholuj</a>.</p>
<p>Nie ANalizuj wszystkiego Joanno, bo braknie Ci Czasu. Wyciągaj wnioski ze Swych własnych doświadczeń i na podstawie zdobytej poprzez obserwację zdarzeń, Swej własnej Wiedzy, konfrontuj to ze Swym Matczynym, Miłującym Sercem i rozpoznawaj PRAWDĘ. Tylko PRAWDA sprawia, że odczuwasz Spokój, Radość i Wolność. Wszystko inne jest zniewalającym kłamstwem. Ta Prawda podpowie CI jakie są Naturalne Prawa, Zasady, Reguły dziania się Rzeczy i dokonuj SYNtezy Tego Jako Całości. Tym KIMŚ właśnie JESTEŚ.</p>
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		Autor: joannacholuj		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joannacholuj]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wyrzucilo mi ten art przy okazji czytania innsgo
Dzieki
Bede robic kolejne ukladanie sobie w glowie sensu kolorow. Kolory liczby to podstawa energii. Mowilam kiedys o zodiaku, symbolach logo z astrolog perspektywy, teraz perspektywa slowianska wiele rozjasnia. Mysle jednak ze nigdzie nie naklamalam ani mowiac o czarnym i czarnych orlach germanskich, ani mowiac o marszu i kolorach bieli czerwieni po swojemu. Mysle ze orzel bielik nie musi wykluczac smokow wezy i syren....  Czasem cos mi kaze tak powiedziec  na filmie inaczej niz planowalam, mam nadzieje ze to nadswiadomosc nie jaki czort :) zajrzyjcie do filmu Marsz na marsz . pozdrawiam . i w ogole super pomysl na opowiadanie te symbole i kolory. Tylko nie nadazam pisac.. Pan Czeslaw sam pewnie wie. Pomyslow tysiace a mocy przerobowych w materie utworu malo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wyrzucilo mi ten art przy okazji czytania innsgo<br />
Dzieki<br />
Bede robic kolejne ukladanie sobie w glowie sensu kolorow. Kolory liczby to podstawa energii. Mowilam kiedys o zodiaku, symbolach logo z astrolog perspektywy, teraz perspektywa slowianska wiele rozjasnia. Mysle jednak ze nigdzie nie naklamalam ani mowiac o czarnym i czarnych orlach germanskich, ani mowiac o marszu i kolorach bieli czerwieni po swojemu. Mysle ze orzel bielik nie musi wykluczac smokow wezy i syren&#8230;.  Czasem cos mi kaze tak powiedziec  na filmie inaczej niz planowalam, mam nadzieje ze to nadswiadomosc nie jaki czort 🙂 zajrzyjcie do filmu Marsz na marsz . pozdrawiam . i w ogole super pomysl na opowiadanie te symbole i kolory. Tylko nie nadazam pisac.. Pan Czeslaw sam pewnie wie. Pomyslow tysiace a mocy przerobowych w materie utworu malo</p>
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		Autor: ORLICKI		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ORLICKI]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2018 09:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[5) Przed tamgami scytyjskimi były zwyczaje religijno kultowe Presłowian. W nich używaliśmy więc bieli i czerwieni. Jak dzisiaj, pewnie z powodu dziedzictwa po-arjowego, hindusi nad Gangesem, malując twarze na czerwono.  
6) Zloty kolor, jest barwą kultową, poscytyjską. Był to kolor kultowy, symbolizujący słońce. Stąd popularny w barwach na Rusi i południu Europy. Nie pochodzi od łanów zboża. 
7) Barwy bojowe - narodowe Polahów, to odcień czerwieni - purpura z bielą - orła pośrodku. Barwa krwi. Chorągiew królewska. Lub dwa pasy czerwieni amarantowej a pośrodku pas biały, z orłem w środku. Korona naszego orła, ma złoto scytyjskie. To najwcześniejsze barwy Polski. Czyli trzy pasy! Takie powinna mieć przyszła Rzeczpospolita.
8) Barwą orła/ożila/ożywającego, jest na pewno biel. To symbol czystości duchowej, prawości, pokoju, wolności/swobody.  Ale też w domyśle, skoro jest to ptak ożywający, zmartwychwstający - przez ogień słonecznego całopalenia (zwyczaj staro słowiański), to gdzieś w tle jest i złoto ognia, jego korona. Białe są również i gatunki gęsi północnych, jakie Słowianie i Etruskowie/Raseni czcili. 
Czerwień, to niewątpliwie symbol; życia, duchowy, walki, odwagi, chwały. 
9) Sarmaci byli Scytami! To po prostu jedno z większych, dominujących na północy i środku Europy, plemion scytyjskich. Wywodzi się z nad północy Morza Czarnego, Mazonii, skąd przemieszczali na zachód i północ. Stąd zapewne nasze ścisłe związki lingwistyczne - toponimy, z tym rejonem, jak; Mazowsze, Mazuria. Wszystko od mazi, czyli błot, rozlewisk Donu i Dunaju. Podobna nazwa grobu, w Pakistanie. Powinniśmy w naszych legendach, mieć wiele pamiątek po Mazonkach sarmackich znad Donu. Może są nimi legendy o Rusałkach bagiennych? Rusałki, to córki Rusa, władców scyto - sarmackich znad Donu. Czyli białe/rusa (rusa/rosa/rasa) ał/al (wysokie) ki (zaimek), piękne dziewice. Strzegły ruczajów/rusani/rosi, od rodzących - czaj . Z tego terminu, jako synonim piękna, pochodzi łacińskie a od raseńskie/etruskie słowo rosalia (święto róż). Od tych scytyjskich Mazonek, często przywódczyń plemiennych (u Słowian szanowano kobiety, bywały władczyniami), pochowanych w kurchanach, pochodzi tak kultywowany w Sarmacji czyli teraz głównie Polsce, zwyczaj całowania kobiet w dłoń. Rusały miewały na wiosnę zielone włosy, ubarwione młodymi roślinami. Symbolem życia, płodności. Stąd narody blisko związane ze Słowianami, Madziarzy (też od mazi dońskiej) i Wałgowie/Wołhowie, przejęli zieleń w swoje barwy rodowe. Step, na których żyli, niziny wołżańskie, mają różne barwy w roku i nie stąd to pochodzi. Oba plemiona, Wegrzy i Bułgarzy, przeszły przez niziny mazońskie, bytując tam długo wśród Sarmatów. Dzisiaj, w tańcach serbskich Rusinek, z Novego Sadu, widzimy tę zieleń we włosach gęsto wplecioną.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5) Przed tamgami scytyjskimi były zwyczaje religijno kultowe Presłowian. W nich używaliśmy więc bieli i czerwieni. Jak dzisiaj, pewnie z powodu dziedzictwa po-arjowego, hindusi nad Gangesem, malując twarze na czerwono.<br />
6) Zloty kolor, jest barwą kultową, poscytyjską. Był to kolor kultowy, symbolizujący słońce. Stąd popularny w barwach na Rusi i południu Europy. Nie pochodzi od łanów zboża.<br />
7) Barwy bojowe &#8211; narodowe Polahów, to odcień czerwieni &#8211; purpura z bielą &#8211; orła pośrodku. Barwa krwi. Chorągiew królewska. Lub dwa pasy czerwieni amarantowej a pośrodku pas biały, z orłem w środku. Korona naszego orła, ma złoto scytyjskie. To najwcześniejsze barwy Polski. Czyli trzy pasy! Takie powinna mieć przyszła Rzeczpospolita.<br />
8) Barwą orła/ożila/ożywającego, jest na pewno biel. To symbol czystości duchowej, prawości, pokoju, wolności/swobody.  Ale też w domyśle, skoro jest to ptak ożywający, zmartwychwstający &#8211; przez ogień słonecznego całopalenia (zwyczaj staro słowiański), to gdzieś w tle jest i złoto ognia, jego korona. Białe są również i gatunki gęsi północnych, jakie Słowianie i Etruskowie/Raseni czcili.<br />
Czerwień, to niewątpliwie symbol; życia, duchowy, walki, odwagi, chwały.<br />
9) Sarmaci byli Scytami! To po prostu jedno z większych, dominujących na północy i środku Europy, plemion scytyjskich. Wywodzi się z nad północy Morza Czarnego, Mazonii, skąd przemieszczali na zachód i północ. Stąd zapewne nasze ścisłe związki lingwistyczne &#8211; toponimy, z tym rejonem, jak; Mazowsze, Mazuria. Wszystko od mazi, czyli błot, rozlewisk Donu i Dunaju. Podobna nazwa grobu, w Pakistanie. Powinniśmy w naszych legendach, mieć wiele pamiątek po Mazonkach sarmackich znad Donu. Może są nimi legendy o Rusałkach bagiennych? Rusałki, to córki Rusa, władców scyto &#8211; sarmackich znad Donu. Czyli białe/rusa (rusa/rosa/rasa) ał/al (wysokie) ki (zaimek), piękne dziewice. Strzegły ruczajów/rusani/rosi, od rodzących &#8211; czaj . Z tego terminu, jako synonim piękna, pochodzi łacińskie a od raseńskie/etruskie słowo rosalia (święto róż). Od tych scytyjskich Mazonek, często przywódczyń plemiennych (u Słowian szanowano kobiety, bywały władczyniami), pochowanych w kurchanach, pochodzi tak kultywowany w Sarmacji czyli teraz głównie Polsce, zwyczaj całowania kobiet w dłoń. Rusały miewały na wiosnę zielone włosy, ubarwione młodymi roślinami. Symbolem życia, płodności. Stąd narody blisko związane ze Słowianami, Madziarzy (też od mazi dońskiej) i Wałgowie/Wołhowie, przejęli zieleń w swoje barwy rodowe. Step, na których żyli, niziny wołżańskie, mają różne barwy w roku i nie stąd to pochodzi. Oba plemiona, Wegrzy i Bułgarzy, przeszły przez niziny mazońskie, bytując tam długo wśród Sarmatów. Dzisiaj, w tańcach serbskich Rusinek, z Novego Sadu, widzimy tę zieleń we włosach gęsto wplecioną.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wpisałem zmęczony, późno w nocy, taki króciutki post, mój wywód, na stronę &quot;wspanialarzeczpospolita&quot; do dyskusji o imionach: 

‘Krasnyj/krasiwyj’ ; ros.: piękny, czerwony, ; pol; ‘okrasa’ &#060; k/o-ra-si/sa-wy/wyj&#039; ; &#039;przy/obok/koło – mocnej – jasności - wi&#039; ; &#039;obok pięknej bieli - widać&#039;.

Zupełnie się nie zastanawiałem nad pochodzeniem rosyjskiego słowa (jak widać, nie rosyjskiego bo i polskiego z dodatkiem przyrostka &#034;o&#034;), &#034;krasny&#034;, oznaczającego dwie cechy; 1) czerwony, 2) piękny. 

Zawsze było wiadomo, że synonim krasiwy do znaczenia piękny, pochodzi właśnie od czerwieni. Tylko, że inni Słowianie nie tak nazywają czerwień. Skąd się więc wziął u Rosjan ten wyraz, w takim znaczeniu. Przypadkowo, zapewne odkryłem, że wyjaśnienie tkwi w polskim &#039;o&#039;, jak w słowie &#039;okrasa&#039;. Sens &#034;o&#034; jak w &#039;ok/ko&#039; ;  około, obok, przy, niedaleko, zachowano w j.polskim w tym przyrostku, bo pochodzi z &#039;wo&#039; nie &#039;ko/ok&#039;. A &#039;wo&#039;, oznacza &#039;to&#039;. Czyli nasza &#039;okrasa&#039; , znaczy &#039;to - rasa&#039; czyli &#039;to - jasne&#039;. Bo okrasa, to zwykle jasny tłuszczyk na potrawie, skwarki boczku. To nie jest zielenina. Co innego wyraz rosyjski, gdzie mamy wyraźnie urwany przedrostek z głoską &#039;k&#039;.  Czyli &#039;k-rasiwyj&#039;. To już wyraźna pochodna od &#039;ko/ok&#039;, w znaczeniu jak powyżej. 

No i wychodzi mi na to, że polski wyraz &#039;okrasa&#039;, udowadnia pochodzenie rosyjskiego wyrazu &#039;krasiwyj&#039;, od jego położenia obok &#039;rasi-wyj/rasa&#039; czyli czegoś bardzo jasnego, białego. Co to, takiego, mogło być? Teraz zadajmy sobie takie pytanie! A wyraz rosyjski należy do starych!

1) Może to być biel północy, dalekie śniegi, sięgające czerwonej krainy? Nie ważne jakiej. Nie może. Bo nie jest to nazwa dla krainy, co zostałoby gdzieś  zachowane, tylko cech fizycznych obiektu - piękny. I nie oznaczała prawdopodobnie czerwieni (czerw - krew, wnętrzności), tylko piękno innej barwy. Nie spotkałem nazywania barwą całej krainy. Zawsze są wtedy jej nazwy osobowe, jak Ruś. 
2) Może być to słowo wynikające ze starego zwyczaju indo-arjowego, nakładania na ciało czerwonej ochry. Obok białej ochry jaka nakłada się nieraz na te same miejsca, jak twarz. Biel, byłaby wtedy w jakiś sposób ważniejsza, może dlatego, że zwyczaj wprowadzili biali ludzie, jaśni, Arjowie? Od tego pierwszeństwa, skonstruowano drugi wyraz, od pierwszego koloru - białego.  
3) Wyraz, wziął się od używania go często jako czerwonych haftów, ornamentów, na białych strojach słowiańskich. Zwyczajem u Słowian były stroje białe, za wyjątkiem wojowników - Scytów. Aby je ozdobić, nakładano na nie licznie, szczególnie na wschodzie, czerwone barwy, plecione czerwonymi nićmi.  A więc rzadziej, ale rzeczywiście obok/koło bieli. 
4) Barwy na chorągwiach. Czerwień obok bieli. Podobne barwy na tarczach. Tutaj czerwień często przeważała, więc raczej nie to.

Stawiam na 3.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wpisałem zmęczony, późno w nocy, taki króciutki post, mój wywód, na stronę &#8222;wspanialarzeczpospolita&#8221; do dyskusji o imionach: </p>
<p>‘Krasnyj/krasiwyj’ ; ros.: piękny, czerwony, ; pol; ‘okrasa’ &lt; k/o-ra-si/sa-wy/wyj&#039; ; &#039;przy/obok/koło – mocnej – jasności &#8211; wi&#039; ; &#039;obok pięknej bieli &#8211; widać&#039;.</p>
<p>Zupełnie się nie zastanawiałem nad pochodzeniem rosyjskiego słowa (jak widać, nie rosyjskiego bo i polskiego z dodatkiem przyrostka &quot;o&quot;), &quot;krasny&quot;, oznaczającego dwie cechy; 1) czerwony, 2) piękny. </p>
<p>Zawsze było wiadomo, że synonim krasiwy do znaczenia piękny, pochodzi właśnie od czerwieni. Tylko, że inni Słowianie nie tak nazywają czerwień. Skąd się więc wziął u Rosjan ten wyraz, w takim znaczeniu. Przypadkowo, zapewne odkryłem, że wyjaśnienie tkwi w polskim &#039;o&#039;, jak w słowie &#039;okrasa&#039;. Sens &quot;o&quot; jak w &#039;ok/ko&#039; ;  około, obok, przy, niedaleko, zachowano w j.polskim w tym przyrostku, bo pochodzi z &#039;wo&#039; nie &#039;ko/ok&#039;. A &#039;wo&#039;, oznacza &#039;to&#039;. Czyli nasza &#039;okrasa&#039; , znaczy &#039;to &#8211; rasa&#039; czyli &#039;to &#8211; jasne&#039;. Bo okrasa, to zwykle jasny tłuszczyk na potrawie, skwarki boczku. To nie jest zielenina. Co innego wyraz rosyjski, gdzie mamy wyraźnie urwany przedrostek z głoską &#039;k&#039;.  Czyli &#039;k-rasiwyj&#039;. To już wyraźna pochodna od &#039;ko/ok&#039;, w znaczeniu jak powyżej. </p>
<p>No i wychodzi mi na to, że polski wyraz &#039;okrasa&#039;, udowadnia pochodzenie rosyjskiego wyrazu &#039;krasiwyj&#039;, od jego położenia obok &#039;rasi-wyj/rasa&#039; czyli czegoś bardzo jasnego, białego. Co to, takiego, mogło być? Teraz zadajmy sobie takie pytanie! A wyraz rosyjski należy do starych!</p>
<p>1) Może to być biel północy, dalekie śniegi, sięgające czerwonej krainy? Nie ważne jakiej. Nie może. Bo nie jest to nazwa dla krainy, co zostałoby gdzieś  zachowane, tylko cech fizycznych obiektu &#8211; piękny. I nie oznaczała prawdopodobnie czerwieni (czerw &#8211; krew, wnętrzności), tylko piękno innej barwy. Nie spotkałem nazywania barwą całej krainy. Zawsze są wtedy jej nazwy osobowe, jak Ruś.<br />
2) Może być to słowo wynikające ze starego zwyczaju indo-arjowego, nakładania na ciało czerwonej ochry. Obok białej ochry jaka nakłada się nieraz na te same miejsca, jak twarz. Biel, byłaby wtedy w jakiś sposób ważniejsza, może dlatego, że zwyczaj wprowadzili biali ludzie, jaśni, Arjowie? Od tego pierwszeństwa, skonstruowano drugi wyraz, od pierwszego koloru &#8211; białego.<br />
3) Wyraz, wziął się od używania go często jako czerwonych haftów, ornamentów, na białych strojach słowiańskich. Zwyczajem u Słowian były stroje białe, za wyjątkiem wojowników &#8211; Scytów. Aby je ozdobić, nakładano na nie licznie, szczególnie na wschodzie, czerwone barwy, plecione czerwonymi nićmi.  A więc rzadziej, ale rzeczywiście obok/koło bieli.<br />
4) Barwy na chorągwiach. Czerwień obok bieli. Podobne barwy na tarczach. Tutaj czerwień często przeważała, więc raczej nie to.</p>
<p>Stawiam na 3.</p>
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A oto i caly oryginalny bardzo ciekawy artykul!

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html

Duzo map z danymi. Sprawdzcie ta (Figure 5: Principal component analysis) szczegolnie, bo tam sie mozna dowiedziec, ze Minojczycy sa bardzo blisko spokrewnieni z Serbami!

Zobaczcie np. tego pdf to dodatkowe materialy do tego artykulu:

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/extref/ncomms2871-s1.pdf
Supplementary Table S5. Average Pairwise Differences.
(…)
Greece-EastMacedonia/Thrace 4.41306
Polish 4.44768
LasithiPlateau 4.44937
Russian 4.45643
Neolithic-PostLMBG-German 4.49029
(…)

The first advanced Bronze Age civilization of Europe was established by the Minoans about 5,000 years before present. Since Sir Arthur Evans exposed the Minoan civic centre of Knossos, archaeologists have speculated on the origin of the founders of the civilization. Evans proposed a North African origin; Cycladic, Balkan, Anatolian and Middle Eastern origins have also been proposed. Here we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by analysing mitochondrial DNA from Minoan osseous remains from a cave ossuary in the Lassithi plateau of Crete dated 4,400–3,700 years before present. Shared haplotypes, principal component and pairwise distance analyses refute the Evans North African hypothesis. Minoans show the strongest relationships with Neolithic and modern European populations and with the modern inhabitants of the Lassithi plateau. Our data are compatible with the hypothesis of an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island.

The first Neolithic humans reached Crete about 9,000 years before present (YBP)1, 2, coinciding with the development and adoption of the agricultural practices in the Near East and the extensive Neolithic population diffusion (8,000–9,500 YBP) that brought farming to Europe3. The most likely origins of these Neolithic settlers were the nearest coasts, either the Peloponnese or south-western Anatolia4, 5, 6. These humans established the first major European civilization on the island of Crete at the beginning of the Early Bronze Age7. Sir Arthur Evans, named the people who built this civilization ‘Minoans’ after the legendary Minos, the King of Knossos. Evans also suggested that the founders of the Minoan civilization were refugees from the Delta region of Egypt when North Egypt was conquered by the Southern king Narmer (Menes of ancient historians) at about 5,000 YBP7, 8; his evidence were the similarities between Minoan and Egyptian art and elements he was considering Libyan in origin, such as the cod piece worn by Bronze Age Cretans and the circular tombs of the early inhabitants of Southern Crete that were similar to tombs built by the Libyans7, 8. Based on a variety of archaeological finds, other archaeologists have argued for Cycladic9, Anatolian9, 10, Syrian or Palestinian11, 12 migrations or for an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization from the initial inhabitants of Crete13. Attempts to infer ancient ancestry of the Bronze Age Cretans using Y-chromosomal or mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) studies of the modern Cretan populations have yielded conflicting results, supporting Balkan14, Anatolian15, or Middle Eastern and Balkan16 origins.

In this study, we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by comparing Minoan mtDNA polymorphisms with those of 135 modern and ancient populations. We study skeletal remains from two Minoan populations, one in central Crete, the other in southern Crete. Following the application of a series of strict authentication criteria, we use for our comparisons the DNAs of only 37 Minoans whose remains were well preserved in a cave ossuary located in the Lassithi plateau of east-central Crete. We determine mtDNA polymorphisms using two different methods applied in two different laboratories. Our calculations of genetic distances, haplotype sharing and principal component analysis (PCA) exclude a North African origin of the Minoans. Instead, we find that the highest genetic affinity of the Minoans is with Neolithic and modern European populations. We conclude that the most likely origin of the Minoans is the Neolithic population that migrated to Europe about 9,000 YBP. We propose that the Minoan civilization most likely was developed by the autochthonous population of the Bronze Age Crete.

(…)
Our results strongly suggest that the principal matrilineal genetic relationships of the Minoans are with Neolithic, ancient and modern European populations. Such findings are in support of the hypothesis of an autochthonous origin of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island4, 13. As it has been proposed for the other Neolithic European populations21, 22, 23, the most likely origin of the Cretan Neolithic settlers was Anatolia and the Middle East4, 7, 9, 10, 11. Given that the timing of the first Neolithic inhabitants to reach Crete 9,000 YBP coincides with the migration of Neolithic farmers out of Anatolia3, it is highly probable that the same ancestral population that spread to Europe, also spread to Crete and contributed to the founding of the early Minoan civilization. It has been suggested24 that in addition to agricultural methods, the Anatolian farmers also brought with them the Indo-European language25, 26. The current prevailing hypothesis is that the Minoan language was unrelated to the Indo-European family. Alternatively, as suggested by Renfrew5, Proto-Minoan was one of the branches derived from the Proto-Indo-European language about 9,000 YBP. (…

Kolejny artykul o europejsko-anatolijskich a nie egipsko-afrykanskich Minojczykach, w tym 2 fajne mapki!
Dla co po niektorych to jest szok, jak oni jednak smiali byc biali…hehehe

http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01078-dna-minoan-civilization-crete.html

Exoplanet Finder • a month ago
So much for “Black Athena”. What a waste of ink on something everyone, including the proponents, knew was an ideological lie. This should be on the front page of the New York Time with a heading: “Whites found to be white after all.”

Panie Czeslawie,

szkoda, ze Pan tego artykulu nie umiescil na glownej stronie, tylko na czarnym pasku.
Mysle ze warto sie z nim podzielic z szersza publicznoscia.

Oto co znalazlem przy tej okazji:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325768/The-Minoans-Caucasian-DNA-debunks-longstanding-theory-Europes-advanced-culture-Africa.html

The Minoans were Caucasian: DNA debunks longstanding theory that Europe’s first advanced culture was from Africa

British archaeologists who in 1900 discovered the Minoan culture believed they were from Libya or Egypt

The Minoan civilisation arose on Crete in the 27th century BC and flourished until the 15th century BC
DNA analysis has debunked the longstanding theory that the Minoans, who some 5,000 years ago established Europe’s first advanced Bronze Age culture, were from Africa.

The Minoan civilisation arose on the Mediterranean island of Crete in approximately the 27th century BC and flourished for 12 centuries until the 15th century BC.

But the culture was lost until British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans unearthed its remains on Crete in 1900, where he found vestiges of a civilisation he believed was formed by refugees from northern Egypt.

Modern archaeologists have cast doubt on that version of events, and now DNA tests of Minoan remains suggests they were descended from ancient farmers who settled the islands thousands of years earlier.

These people, it is believed, are from the same stock that came from the East to populate the rest of Europe.

Evans set to work on Crete in 1900 with a team of archaeologists soon after the island was liberated from the yoke of the Ottoman empire, almost immediately unearthing a great palace.

He named the civilisation he discovered after the legendary Greek king Minos and, based on likenesses between Minoan artifacts and those from Egypt and Libya, proposed that its founders migrated into the area from North Africa.

Since then, other archaeologists have suggested that the Minoans may have come from other regions, possibly Turkey, the Balkans, or the Middle East.

But now a joint U.S. and Greek team has made a mitochondrial DNA analysis of Minoan skeletal remains to determine the likely ancestors of the ancient people.

Mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of cells, contain their own DNA, or genetic code, and because mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mothers to their children via the human egg, it contains information about maternal ancestry.

Findings suggest that the Minoan civilisation arose from the population already living in Crete, and that these people were probably descendants of the first humans to reach there about 9,000 years ago.

Further, they found, the remains have the greatest genetic similarity with modern European populations.

Senior researcher Dr George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington, said the analysis showed these people probably came to the area from the East, not the South.
About 9,000 years ago there was an extensive migration of Neolithic humans from the regions of Anatolia that today comprise parts of Turkey and the Middle East,’ he said.

‘At the same time, the first Neolithic inhabitants reached Crete.

‘Our mitochondrial DNA analysis shows that the Minoans’ strongest genetic relationships are with these Neolithic humans, as well as with ancient and modern Europeans.

‘These results suggest the Minoan civilization arose 5,000 years ago in Crete from an ancestral Neolithic population that had arrived in the region about 4,000 years earlier.

‘Our data suggest that the Neolithic population that gave rise to the Minoans also migrated into Europe and gave rise to modern European peoples’
George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington

Dr Stamatoyannopoulos and his team analysed samples from 37 skeletons found in a cave in Crete’s Lassithi plateau and compared them with mitochondrial DNA sequences from 135 modern and ancient human populations.

The Minoan samples revealed 21 distinct mitochondrial DNA variations, of which six were unique to the Minoans and 15 were shared with modern and ancient populations.

None of the Minoans carried mitochondrial DNA variations characteristic of African populations.

Further analysis showed that the Minoans were only distantly related to Egyptian, Libyan, and other North African populations.

Indeed, the Minoan shared the greatest percentage of their mitochondrial DNA variation with European populations, especially those in Northern and Western Europe.

When plotted geographically, shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was lowest in North Africa and increased progressively across the Middle East, Caucasus, Mediterranean islands, Southern Europe, and mainland Europe.

The highest percentage of shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was found with Neolithic populations from Southern Europe.

The analysis also showed a high degree of sharing with the current population of the Lassithi plateau and Greece.

In fact, the maternal genetic information passed down through many generations of mitochondria is still present in modern-day residents of the area where the Minoan skeletons were found.

Dr Stamatoyannopoulos said he believes that the findings highlight the importance of DNA analysis as a tool for understanding human history.

‘Genetic analyses are playing in increasingly important role and predicting and protecting human health,’ he said.

‘Our study underscores the importance of DNA not only in helping us to have healthier futures, but also to understand our past.’

- Yaffel Chucklebutty, WeBuiltThisCity, 16/5/2013 23:10
That’s gonna be hard for the multi-cultural fascists to swallow! Another blow to their “Everyone came from Africa” philosophy.

- RT, Canada, 17/5/2013 1:53
North Africans are mostly not even ethnically “Negroid”! They ARE Caucasian. Any kid in a World History class can tell you that! Just because these people were not “black” does not mean their civilization should now no longer be admired! Caucasian had to do with face bone structure not color. That’s why even if you took a person from North India and like spray tanned them very dark, they still wouldn’t look “black” because they are not negroid and thus do not have those facial features or the bone structure. The majority of the regions on Earth have people of the Caucasian race. This is nothing to hide or be ashamed of! The ancient Persians, Romans, Vikings, and Indians were all Caucasian. Not trying to be racist, but sorry if them not being black offends you.

- will26ww, USA, 17/5/2013 2:31
If this is true we must never speak of it again. Caucasian is politically incorrect after all.

- Hooter, Atlanta, 17/5/2013 5:00
Interesting. Neolithic and from the east…… I have a question.. are the Minoans related to the builders Göbekli Tepe? and perhaps Santorini?

- Hylian, Hyrule, United Kingdom, 17/5/2013 6:12
The Pharaohs of Egypt were also Caucasian and the ruling kings of ancient China were also Caucasian, but this information has been hidden for some strange reason. Genghis Khan was Caucasian with red hair and green eyes.

- Arthur Daley, Paris, 17/5/2013 7:44
“The Minoans were Caucasian”, says the headline. North Africans are also Caucasian, as indeed are Indians, so this ignorant headline is seriously misleading. The Minoans were European! @ kittycat1984 , Berkshire: “Archaeological digs are NOT sterile environments. Therefore any DNA extracted will be contaminated. It proves NOTHING”. I find your comment very funny. You don’t need a sterile environment to extract DNA, you can even do it in your kitchen. What you need are ways to remove contamination, and that’s exactly what we’ve got.]]></description>
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<p>A oto i caly oryginalny bardzo ciekawy artykul!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html</a></p>
<p>Duzo map z danymi. Sprawdzcie ta (Figure 5: Principal component analysis) szczegolnie, bo tam sie mozna dowiedziec, ze Minojczycy sa bardzo blisko spokrewnieni z Serbami!</p>
<p>Zobaczcie np. tego pdf to dodatkowe materialy do tego artykulu:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/extref/ncomms2871-s1.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/extref/ncomms2871-s1.pdf</a><br />
Supplementary Table S5. Average Pairwise Differences.<br />
(…)<br />
Greece-EastMacedonia/Thrace 4.41306<br />
Polish 4.44768<br />
LasithiPlateau 4.44937<br />
Russian 4.45643<br />
Neolithic-PostLMBG-German 4.49029<br />
(…)</p>
<p>The first advanced Bronze Age civilization of Europe was established by the Minoans about 5,000 years before present. Since Sir Arthur Evans exposed the Minoan civic centre of Knossos, archaeologists have speculated on the origin of the founders of the civilization. Evans proposed a North African origin; Cycladic, Balkan, Anatolian and Middle Eastern origins have also been proposed. Here we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by analysing mitochondrial DNA from Minoan osseous remains from a cave ossuary in the Lassithi plateau of Crete dated 4,400–3,700 years before present. Shared haplotypes, principal component and pairwise distance analyses refute the Evans North African hypothesis. Minoans show the strongest relationships with Neolithic and modern European populations and with the modern inhabitants of the Lassithi plateau. Our data are compatible with the hypothesis of an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island.</p>
<p>The first Neolithic humans reached Crete about 9,000 years before present (YBP)1, 2, coinciding with the development and adoption of the agricultural practices in the Near East and the extensive Neolithic population diffusion (8,000–9,500 YBP) that brought farming to Europe3. The most likely origins of these Neolithic settlers were the nearest coasts, either the Peloponnese or south-western Anatolia4, 5, 6. These humans established the first major European civilization on the island of Crete at the beginning of the Early Bronze Age7. Sir Arthur Evans, named the people who built this civilization ‘Minoans’ after the legendary Minos, the King of Knossos. Evans also suggested that the founders of the Minoan civilization were refugees from the Delta region of Egypt when North Egypt was conquered by the Southern king Narmer (Menes of ancient historians) at about 5,000 YBP7, 8; his evidence were the similarities between Minoan and Egyptian art and elements he was considering Libyan in origin, such as the cod piece worn by Bronze Age Cretans and the circular tombs of the early inhabitants of Southern Crete that were similar to tombs built by the Libyans7, 8. Based on a variety of archaeological finds, other archaeologists have argued for Cycladic9, Anatolian9, 10, Syrian or Palestinian11, 12 migrations or for an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization from the initial inhabitants of Crete13. Attempts to infer ancient ancestry of the Bronze Age Cretans using Y-chromosomal or mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) studies of the modern Cretan populations have yielded conflicting results, supporting Balkan14, Anatolian15, or Middle Eastern and Balkan16 origins.</p>
<p>In this study, we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by comparing Minoan mtDNA polymorphisms with those of 135 modern and ancient populations. We study skeletal remains from two Minoan populations, one in central Crete, the other in southern Crete. Following the application of a series of strict authentication criteria, we use for our comparisons the DNAs of only 37 Minoans whose remains were well preserved in a cave ossuary located in the Lassithi plateau of east-central Crete. We determine mtDNA polymorphisms using two different methods applied in two different laboratories. Our calculations of genetic distances, haplotype sharing and principal component analysis (PCA) exclude a North African origin of the Minoans. Instead, we find that the highest genetic affinity of the Minoans is with Neolithic and modern European populations. We conclude that the most likely origin of the Minoans is the Neolithic population that migrated to Europe about 9,000 YBP. We propose that the Minoan civilization most likely was developed by the autochthonous population of the Bronze Age Crete.</p>
<p>(…)<br />
Our results strongly suggest that the principal matrilineal genetic relationships of the Minoans are with Neolithic, ancient and modern European populations. Such findings are in support of the hypothesis of an autochthonous origin of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island4, 13. As it has been proposed for the other Neolithic European populations21, 22, 23, the most likely origin of the Cretan Neolithic settlers was Anatolia and the Middle East4, 7, 9, 10, 11. Given that the timing of the first Neolithic inhabitants to reach Crete 9,000 YBP coincides with the migration of Neolithic farmers out of Anatolia3, it is highly probable that the same ancestral population that spread to Europe, also spread to Crete and contributed to the founding of the early Minoan civilization. It has been suggested24 that in addition to agricultural methods, the Anatolian farmers also brought with them the Indo-European language25, 26. The current prevailing hypothesis is that the Minoan language was unrelated to the Indo-European family. Alternatively, as suggested by Renfrew5, Proto-Minoan was one of the branches derived from the Proto-Indo-European language about 9,000 YBP. (…</p>
<p>Kolejny artykul o europejsko-anatolijskich a nie egipsko-afrykanskich Minojczykach, w tym 2 fajne mapki!<br />
Dla co po niektorych to jest szok, jak oni jednak smiali byc biali…hehehe</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01078-dna-minoan-civilization-crete.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01078-dna-minoan-civilization-crete.html</a></p>
<p>Exoplanet Finder • a month ago<br />
So much for “Black Athena”. What a waste of ink on something everyone, including the proponents, knew was an ideological lie. This should be on the front page of the New York Time with a heading: “Whites found to be white after all.”</p>
<p>Panie Czeslawie,</p>
<p>szkoda, ze Pan tego artykulu nie umiescil na glownej stronie, tylko na czarnym pasku.<br />
Mysle ze warto sie z nim podzielic z szersza publicznoscia.</p>
<p>Oto co znalazlem przy tej okazji:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325768/The-Minoans-Caucasian-DNA-debunks-longstanding-theory-Europes-advanced-culture-Africa.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325768/The-Minoans-Caucasian-DNA-debunks-longstanding-theory-Europes-advanced-culture-Africa.html</a></p>
<p>The Minoans were Caucasian: DNA debunks longstanding theory that Europe’s first advanced culture was from Africa</p>
<p>British archaeologists who in 1900 discovered the Minoan culture believed they were from Libya or Egypt</p>
<p>The Minoan civilisation arose on Crete in the 27th century BC and flourished until the 15th century BC<br />
DNA analysis has debunked the longstanding theory that the Minoans, who some 5,000 years ago established Europe’s first advanced Bronze Age culture, were from Africa.</p>
<p>The Minoan civilisation arose on the Mediterranean island of Crete in approximately the 27th century BC and flourished for 12 centuries until the 15th century BC.</p>
<p>But the culture was lost until British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans unearthed its remains on Crete in 1900, where he found vestiges of a civilisation he believed was formed by refugees from northern Egypt.</p>
<p>Modern archaeologists have cast doubt on that version of events, and now DNA tests of Minoan remains suggests they were descended from ancient farmers who settled the islands thousands of years earlier.</p>
<p>These people, it is believed, are from the same stock that came from the East to populate the rest of Europe.</p>
<p>Evans set to work on Crete in 1900 with a team of archaeologists soon after the island was liberated from the yoke of the Ottoman empire, almost immediately unearthing a great palace.</p>
<p>He named the civilisation he discovered after the legendary Greek king Minos and, based on likenesses between Minoan artifacts and those from Egypt and Libya, proposed that its founders migrated into the area from North Africa.</p>
<p>Since then, other archaeologists have suggested that the Minoans may have come from other regions, possibly Turkey, the Balkans, or the Middle East.</p>
<p>But now a joint U.S. and Greek team has made a mitochondrial DNA analysis of Minoan skeletal remains to determine the likely ancestors of the ancient people.</p>
<p>Mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of cells, contain their own DNA, or genetic code, and because mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mothers to their children via the human egg, it contains information about maternal ancestry.</p>
<p>Findings suggest that the Minoan civilisation arose from the population already living in Crete, and that these people were probably descendants of the first humans to reach there about 9,000 years ago.</p>
<p>Further, they found, the remains have the greatest genetic similarity with modern European populations.</p>
<p>Senior researcher Dr George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington, said the analysis showed these people probably came to the area from the East, not the South.<br />
About 9,000 years ago there was an extensive migration of Neolithic humans from the regions of Anatolia that today comprise parts of Turkey and the Middle East,’ he said.</p>
<p>‘At the same time, the first Neolithic inhabitants reached Crete.</p>
<p>‘Our mitochondrial DNA analysis shows that the Minoans’ strongest genetic relationships are with these Neolithic humans, as well as with ancient and modern Europeans.</p>
<p>‘These results suggest the Minoan civilization arose 5,000 years ago in Crete from an ancestral Neolithic population that had arrived in the region about 4,000 years earlier.</p>
<p>‘Our data suggest that the Neolithic population that gave rise to the Minoans also migrated into Europe and gave rise to modern European peoples’<br />
George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington</p>
<p>Dr Stamatoyannopoulos and his team analysed samples from 37 skeletons found in a cave in Crete’s Lassithi plateau and compared them with mitochondrial DNA sequences from 135 modern and ancient human populations.</p>
<p>The Minoan samples revealed 21 distinct mitochondrial DNA variations, of which six were unique to the Minoans and 15 were shared with modern and ancient populations.</p>
<p>None of the Minoans carried mitochondrial DNA variations characteristic of African populations.</p>
<p>Further analysis showed that the Minoans were only distantly related to Egyptian, Libyan, and other North African populations.</p>
<p>Indeed, the Minoan shared the greatest percentage of their mitochondrial DNA variation with European populations, especially those in Northern and Western Europe.</p>
<p>When plotted geographically, shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was lowest in North Africa and increased progressively across the Middle East, Caucasus, Mediterranean islands, Southern Europe, and mainland Europe.</p>
<p>The highest percentage of shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was found with Neolithic populations from Southern Europe.</p>
<p>The analysis also showed a high degree of sharing with the current population of the Lassithi plateau and Greece.</p>
<p>In fact, the maternal genetic information passed down through many generations of mitochondria is still present in modern-day residents of the area where the Minoan skeletons were found.</p>
<p>Dr Stamatoyannopoulos said he believes that the findings highlight the importance of DNA analysis as a tool for understanding human history.</p>
<p>‘Genetic analyses are playing in increasingly important role and predicting and protecting human health,’ he said.</p>
<p>‘Our study underscores the importance of DNA not only in helping us to have healthier futures, but also to understand our past.’</p>
<p>&#8211; Yaffel Chucklebutty, WeBuiltThisCity, 16/5/2013 23:10<br />
That’s gonna be hard for the multi-cultural fascists to swallow! Another blow to their “Everyone came from Africa” philosophy.</p>
<p>&#8211; RT, Canada, 17/5/2013 1:53<br />
North Africans are mostly not even ethnically “Negroid”! They ARE Caucasian. Any kid in a World History class can tell you that! Just because these people were not “black” does not mean their civilization should now no longer be admired! Caucasian had to do with face bone structure not color. That’s why even if you took a person from North India and like spray tanned them very dark, they still wouldn’t look “black” because they are not negroid and thus do not have those facial features or the bone structure. The majority of the regions on Earth have people of the Caucasian race. This is nothing to hide or be ashamed of! The ancient Persians, Romans, Vikings, and Indians were all Caucasian. Not trying to be racist, but sorry if them not being black offends you.</p>
<p>&#8211; will26ww, USA, 17/5/2013 2:31<br />
If this is true we must never speak of it again. Caucasian is politically incorrect after all.</p>
<p>&#8211; Hooter, Atlanta, 17/5/2013 5:00<br />
Interesting. Neolithic and from the east…… I have a question.. are the Minoans related to the builders Göbekli Tepe? and perhaps Santorini?</p>
<p>&#8211; Hylian, Hyrule, United Kingdom, 17/5/2013 6:12<br />
The Pharaohs of Egypt were also Caucasian and the ruling kings of ancient China were also Caucasian, but this information has been hidden for some strange reason. Genghis Khan was Caucasian with red hair and green eyes.</p>
<p>&#8211; Arthur Daley, Paris, 17/5/2013 7:44<br />
“The Minoans were Caucasian”, says the headline. North Africans are also Caucasian, as indeed are Indians, so this ignorant headline is seriously misleading. The Minoans were European! @ kittycat1984 , Berkshire: “Archaeological digs are NOT sterile environments. Therefore any DNA extracted will be contaminated. It proves NOTHING”. I find your comment very funny. You don’t need a sterile environment to extract DNA, you can even do it in your kitchen. What you need are ways to remove contamination, and that’s exactly what we’ve got.</p>
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A oto i caly oryginalny bardzo ciekawy artykul!

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html

Duzo map z danymi. Sprawdzcie ta (Figure 5: Principal component analysis) szczegolnie, bo tam sie mozna dowiedziec, ze Minojczycy sa bardzo blisko spokrewnieni z Serbami!

Zobaczcie np. tego pdf to dodatkowe materialy do tego artykulu:

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/extref/ncomms2871-s1.pdf
Supplementary Table S5. Average Pairwise Differences.
(…)
Greece-EastMacedonia/Thrace 4.41306
Polish 4.44768
LasithiPlateau 4.44937
Russian 4.45643
Neolithic-PostLMBG-German 4.49029
(…)

The first advanced Bronze Age civilization of Europe was established by the Minoans about 5,000 years before present. Since Sir Arthur Evans exposed the Minoan civic centre of Knossos, archaeologists have speculated on the origin of the founders of the civilization. Evans proposed a North African origin; Cycladic, Balkan, Anatolian and Middle Eastern origins have also been proposed. Here we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by analysing mitochondrial DNA from Minoan osseous remains from a cave ossuary in the Lassithi plateau of Crete dated 4,400–3,700 years before present. Shared haplotypes, principal component and pairwise distance analyses refute the Evans North African hypothesis. Minoans show the strongest relationships with Neolithic and modern European populations and with the modern inhabitants of the Lassithi plateau. Our data are compatible with the hypothesis of an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island.

The first Neolithic humans reached Crete about 9,000 years before present (YBP)1, 2, coinciding with the development and adoption of the agricultural practices in the Near East and the extensive Neolithic population diffusion (8,000–9,500 YBP) that brought farming to Europe3. The most likely origins of these Neolithic settlers were the nearest coasts, either the Peloponnese or south-western Anatolia4, 5, 6. These humans established the first major European civilization on the island of Crete at the beginning of the Early Bronze Age7. Sir Arthur Evans, named the people who built this civilization ‘Minoans’ after the legendary Minos, the King of Knossos. Evans also suggested that the founders of the Minoan civilization were refugees from the Delta region of Egypt when North Egypt was conquered by the Southern king Narmer (Menes of ancient historians) at about 5,000 YBP7, 8; his evidence were the similarities between Minoan and Egyptian art and elements he was considering Libyan in origin, such as the cod piece worn by Bronze Age Cretans and the circular tombs of the early inhabitants of Southern Crete that were similar to tombs built by the Libyans7, 8. Based on a variety of archaeological finds, other archaeologists have argued for Cycladic9, Anatolian9, 10, Syrian or Palestinian11, 12 migrations or for an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization from the initial inhabitants of Crete13. Attempts to infer ancient ancestry of the Bronze Age Cretans using Y-chromosomal or mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) studies of the modern Cretan populations have yielded conflicting results, supporting Balkan14, Anatolian15, or Middle Eastern and Balkan16 origins.

In this study, we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by comparing Minoan mtDNA polymorphisms with those of 135 modern and ancient populations. We study skeletal remains from two Minoan populations, one in central Crete, the other in southern Crete. Following the application of a series of strict authentication criteria, we use for our comparisons the DNAs of only 37 Minoans whose remains were well preserved in a cave ossuary located in the Lassithi plateau of east-central Crete. We determine mtDNA polymorphisms using two different methods applied in two different laboratories. Our calculations of genetic distances, haplotype sharing and principal component analysis (PCA) exclude a North African origin of the Minoans. Instead, we find that the highest genetic affinity of the Minoans is with Neolithic and modern European populations. We conclude that the most likely origin of the Minoans is the Neolithic population that migrated to Europe about 9,000 YBP. We propose that the Minoan civilization most likely was developed by the autochthonous population of the Bronze Age Crete.

(…)
Our results strongly suggest that the principal matrilineal genetic relationships of the Minoans are with Neolithic, ancient and modern European populations. Such findings are in support of the hypothesis of an autochthonous origin of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island4, 13. As it has been proposed for the other Neolithic European populations21, 22, 23, the most likely origin of the Cretan Neolithic settlers was Anatolia and the Middle East4, 7, 9, 10, 11. Given that the timing of the first Neolithic inhabitants to reach Crete 9,000 YBP coincides with the migration of Neolithic farmers out of Anatolia3, it is highly probable that the same ancestral population that spread to Europe, also spread to Crete and contributed to the founding of the early Minoan civilization. It has been suggested24 that in addition to agricultural methods, the Anatolian farmers also brought with them the Indo-European language25, 26. The current prevailing hypothesis is that the Minoan language was unrelated to the Indo-European family. Alternatively, as suggested by Renfrew5, Proto-Minoan was one of the branches derived from the Proto-Indo-European language about 9,000 YBP. (…


Kolejny artykul o europejsko-anatolijskich a nie egipsko-afrykanskich Minojczykach, w tym 2 fajne mapki!
Dla co po niektorych to jest szok, jak oni jednak smiali byc biali…hehehe

http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01078-dna-minoan-civilization-crete.html

Exoplanet Finder • a month ago
So much for “Black Athena”. What a waste of ink on something everyone, including the proponents, knew was an ideological lie. This should be on the front page of the New York Time with a heading: “Whites found to be white after all.”


Panie Czeslawie,

szkoda, ze Pan tego artykulu nie umiescil na glownej stronie, tylko na czarnym pasku.
Mysle ze warto sie z nim podzielic z szersza publicznoscia.

Oto co znalazlem przy tej okazji:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325768/The-Minoans-Caucasian-DNA-debunks-longstanding-theory-Europes-advanced-culture-Africa.html

The Minoans were Caucasian: DNA debunks longstanding theory that Europe’s first advanced culture was from Africa

British archaeologists who in 1900 discovered the Minoan culture believed they were from Libya or Egypt

The Minoan civilisation arose on Crete in the 27th century BC and flourished until the 15th century BC
DNA analysis has debunked the longstanding theory that the Minoans, who some 5,000 years ago established Europe’s first advanced Bronze Age culture, were from Africa.

The Minoan civilisation arose on the Mediterranean island of Crete in approximately the 27th century BC and flourished for 12 centuries until the 15th century BC.

But the culture was lost until British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans unearthed its remains on Crete in 1900, where he found vestiges of a civilisation he believed was formed by refugees from northern Egypt.

Modern archaeologists have cast doubt on that version of events, and now DNA tests of Minoan remains suggests they were descended from ancient farmers who settled the islands thousands of years earlier.

These people, it is believed, are from the same stock that came from the East to populate the rest of Europe.

Evans set to work on Crete in 1900 with a team of archaeologists soon after the island was liberated from the yoke of the Ottoman empire, almost immediately unearthing a great palace.

He named the civilisation he discovered after the legendary Greek king Minos and, based on likenesses between Minoan artifacts and those from Egypt and Libya, proposed that its founders migrated into the area from North Africa.

Since then, other archaeologists have suggested that the Minoans may have come from other regions, possibly Turkey, the Balkans, or the Middle East.

But now a joint U.S. and Greek team has made a mitochondrial DNA analysis of Minoan skeletal remains to determine the likely ancestors of the ancient people.

Mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of cells, contain their own DNA, or genetic code, and because mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mothers to their children via the human egg, it contains information about maternal ancestry.

Findings suggest that the Minoan civilisation arose from the population already living in Crete, and that these people were probably descendants of the first humans to reach there about 9,000 years ago.

Further, they found, the remains have the greatest genetic similarity with modern European populations.

Senior researcher Dr George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington, said the analysis showed these people probably came to the area from the East, not the South.
About 9,000 years ago there was an extensive migration of Neolithic humans from the regions of Anatolia that today comprise parts of Turkey and the Middle East,’ he said.

‘At the same time, the first Neolithic inhabitants reached Crete.

‘Our mitochondrial DNA analysis shows that the Minoans’ strongest genetic relationships are with these Neolithic humans, as well as with ancient and modern Europeans.

‘These results suggest the Minoan civilization arose 5,000 years ago in Crete from an ancestral Neolithic population that had arrived in the region about 4,000 years earlier.

‘Our data suggest that the Neolithic population that gave rise to the Minoans also migrated into Europe and gave rise to modern European peoples’
George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington

Dr Stamatoyannopoulos and his team analysed samples from 37 skeletons found in a cave in Crete’s Lassithi plateau and compared them with mitochondrial DNA sequences from 135 modern and ancient human populations.

The Minoan samples revealed 21 distinct mitochondrial DNA variations, of which six were unique to the Minoans and 15 were shared with modern and ancient populations.

None of the Minoans carried mitochondrial DNA variations characteristic of African populations.

Further analysis showed that the Minoans were only distantly related to Egyptian, Libyan, and other North African populations.

Indeed, the Minoan shared the greatest percentage of their mitochondrial DNA variation with European populations, especially those in Northern and Western Europe.

When plotted geographically, shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was lowest in North Africa and increased progressively across the Middle East, Caucasus, Mediterranean islands, Southern Europe, and mainland Europe.

The highest percentage of shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was found with Neolithic populations from Southern Europe.

The analysis also showed a high degree of sharing with the current population of the Lassithi plateau and Greece.

In fact, the maternal genetic information passed down through many generations of mitochondria is still present in modern-day residents of the area where the Minoan skeletons were found.

Dr Stamatoyannopoulos said he believes that the findings highlight the importance of DNA analysis as a tool for understanding human history.

‘Genetic analyses are playing in increasingly important role and predicting and protecting human health,’ he said.

‘Our study underscores the importance of DNA not only in helping us to have healthier futures, but also to understand our past.’

- Yaffel Chucklebutty, WeBuiltThisCity, 16/5/2013 23:10
That’s gonna be hard for the multi-cultural fascists to swallow! Another blow to their “Everyone came from Africa” philosophy.

- RT, Canada, 17/5/2013 1:53
North Africans are mostly not even ethnically “Negroid”! They ARE Caucasian. Any kid in a World History class can tell you that! Just because these people were not “black” does not mean their civilization should now no longer be admired! Caucasian had to do with face bone structure not color. That’s why even if you took a person from North India and like spray tanned them very dark, they still wouldn’t look “black” because they are not negroid and thus do not have those facial features or the bone structure. The majority of the regions on Earth have people of the Caucasian race. This is nothing to hide or be ashamed of! The ancient Persians, Romans, Vikings, and Indians were all Caucasian. Not trying to be racist, but sorry if them not being black offends you.

- will26ww, USA, 17/5/2013 2:31
If this is true we must never speak of it again. Caucasian is politically incorrect after all.

- Hooter, Atlanta, 17/5/2013 5:00
Interesting. Neolithic and from the east…… I have a question.. are the Minoans related to the builders Göbekli Tepe? and perhaps Santorini?

- Hylian, Hyrule, United Kingdom, 17/5/2013 6:12
The Pharaohs of Egypt were also Caucasian and the ruling kings of ancient China were also Caucasian, but this information has been hidden for some strange reason. Genghis Khan was Caucasian with red hair and green eyes.

- Arthur Daley, Paris, 17/5/2013 7:44
“The Minoans were Caucasian”, says the headline. North Africans are also Caucasian, as indeed are Indians, so this ignorant headline is seriously misleading. The Minoans were European! @ kittycat1984 , Berkshire: “Archaeological digs are NOT sterile environments. Therefore any DNA extracted will be contaminated. It proves NOTHING”. I find your comment very funny. You don’t need a sterile environment to extract DNA, you can even do it in your kitchen. What you need are ways to remove contamination, and that’s exactly what we’ve got.]]></description>
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<p>A oto i caly oryginalny bardzo ciekawy artykul!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/full/ncomms2871.html</a></p>
<p>Duzo map z danymi. Sprawdzcie ta (Figure 5: Principal component analysis) szczegolnie, bo tam sie mozna dowiedziec, ze Minojczycy sa bardzo blisko spokrewnieni z Serbami!</p>
<p>Zobaczcie np. tego pdf to dodatkowe materialy do tego artykulu:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/extref/ncomms2871-s1.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal/v4/n5/extref/ncomms2871-s1.pdf</a><br />
Supplementary Table S5. Average Pairwise Differences.<br />
(…)<br />
Greece-EastMacedonia/Thrace 4.41306<br />
Polish 4.44768<br />
LasithiPlateau 4.44937<br />
Russian 4.45643<br />
Neolithic-PostLMBG-German 4.49029<br />
(…)</p>
<p>The first advanced Bronze Age civilization of Europe was established by the Minoans about 5,000 years before present. Since Sir Arthur Evans exposed the Minoan civic centre of Knossos, archaeologists have speculated on the origin of the founders of the civilization. Evans proposed a North African origin; Cycladic, Balkan, Anatolian and Middle Eastern origins have also been proposed. Here we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by analysing mitochondrial DNA from Minoan osseous remains from a cave ossuary in the Lassithi plateau of Crete dated 4,400–3,700 years before present. Shared haplotypes, principal component and pairwise distance analyses refute the Evans North African hypothesis. Minoans show the strongest relationships with Neolithic and modern European populations and with the modern inhabitants of the Lassithi plateau. Our data are compatible with the hypothesis of an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island.</p>
<p>The first Neolithic humans reached Crete about 9,000 years before present (YBP)1, 2, coinciding with the development and adoption of the agricultural practices in the Near East and the extensive Neolithic population diffusion (8,000–9,500 YBP) that brought farming to Europe3. The most likely origins of these Neolithic settlers were the nearest coasts, either the Peloponnese or south-western Anatolia4, 5, 6. These humans established the first major European civilization on the island of Crete at the beginning of the Early Bronze Age7. Sir Arthur Evans, named the people who built this civilization ‘Minoans’ after the legendary Minos, the King of Knossos. Evans also suggested that the founders of the Minoan civilization were refugees from the Delta region of Egypt when North Egypt was conquered by the Southern king Narmer (Menes of ancient historians) at about 5,000 YBP7, 8; his evidence were the similarities between Minoan and Egyptian art and elements he was considering Libyan in origin, such as the cod piece worn by Bronze Age Cretans and the circular tombs of the early inhabitants of Southern Crete that were similar to tombs built by the Libyans7, 8. Based on a variety of archaeological finds, other archaeologists have argued for Cycladic9, Anatolian9, 10, Syrian or Palestinian11, 12 migrations or for an autochthonous development of the Minoan civilization from the initial inhabitants of Crete13. Attempts to infer ancient ancestry of the Bronze Age Cretans using Y-chromosomal or mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) studies of the modern Cretan populations have yielded conflicting results, supporting Balkan14, Anatolian15, or Middle Eastern and Balkan16 origins.</p>
<p>In this study, we address the question of the origin of the Minoans by comparing Minoan mtDNA polymorphisms with those of 135 modern and ancient populations. We study skeletal remains from two Minoan populations, one in central Crete, the other in southern Crete. Following the application of a series of strict authentication criteria, we use for our comparisons the DNAs of only 37 Minoans whose remains were well preserved in a cave ossuary located in the Lassithi plateau of east-central Crete. We determine mtDNA polymorphisms using two different methods applied in two different laboratories. Our calculations of genetic distances, haplotype sharing and principal component analysis (PCA) exclude a North African origin of the Minoans. Instead, we find that the highest genetic affinity of the Minoans is with Neolithic and modern European populations. We conclude that the most likely origin of the Minoans is the Neolithic population that migrated to Europe about 9,000 YBP. We propose that the Minoan civilization most likely was developed by the autochthonous population of the Bronze Age Crete.</p>
<p>(…)<br />
Our results strongly suggest that the principal matrilineal genetic relationships of the Minoans are with Neolithic, ancient and modern European populations. Such findings are in support of the hypothesis of an autochthonous origin of the Minoan civilization by the descendants of the Neolithic settlers of the island4, 13. As it has been proposed for the other Neolithic European populations21, 22, 23, the most likely origin of the Cretan Neolithic settlers was Anatolia and the Middle East4, 7, 9, 10, 11. Given that the timing of the first Neolithic inhabitants to reach Crete 9,000 YBP coincides with the migration of Neolithic farmers out of Anatolia3, it is highly probable that the same ancestral population that spread to Europe, also spread to Crete and contributed to the founding of the early Minoan civilization. It has been suggested24 that in addition to agricultural methods, the Anatolian farmers also brought with them the Indo-European language25, 26. The current prevailing hypothesis is that the Minoan language was unrelated to the Indo-European family. Alternatively, as suggested by Renfrew5, Proto-Minoan was one of the branches derived from the Proto-Indo-European language about 9,000 YBP. (…</p>
<p>Kolejny artykul o europejsko-anatolijskich a nie egipsko-afrykanskich Minojczykach, w tym 2 fajne mapki!<br />
Dla co po niektorych to jest szok, jak oni jednak smiali byc biali…hehehe</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01078-dna-minoan-civilization-crete.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.sci-news.com/archaeology/article01078-dna-minoan-civilization-crete.html</a></p>
<p>Exoplanet Finder • a month ago<br />
So much for “Black Athena”. What a waste of ink on something everyone, including the proponents, knew was an ideological lie. This should be on the front page of the New York Time with a heading: “Whites found to be white after all.”</p>
<p>Panie Czeslawie,</p>
<p>szkoda, ze Pan tego artykulu nie umiescil na glownej stronie, tylko na czarnym pasku.<br />
Mysle ze warto sie z nim podzielic z szersza publicznoscia.</p>
<p>Oto co znalazlem przy tej okazji:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325768/The-Minoans-Caucasian-DNA-debunks-longstanding-theory-Europes-advanced-culture-Africa.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2325768/The-Minoans-Caucasian-DNA-debunks-longstanding-theory-Europes-advanced-culture-Africa.html</a></p>
<p>The Minoans were Caucasian: DNA debunks longstanding theory that Europe’s first advanced culture was from Africa</p>
<p>British archaeologists who in 1900 discovered the Minoan culture believed they were from Libya or Egypt</p>
<p>The Minoan civilisation arose on Crete in the 27th century BC and flourished until the 15th century BC<br />
DNA analysis has debunked the longstanding theory that the Minoans, who some 5,000 years ago established Europe’s first advanced Bronze Age culture, were from Africa.</p>
<p>The Minoan civilisation arose on the Mediterranean island of Crete in approximately the 27th century BC and flourished for 12 centuries until the 15th century BC.</p>
<p>But the culture was lost until British archaeologist Sir Arthur Evans unearthed its remains on Crete in 1900, where he found vestiges of a civilisation he believed was formed by refugees from northern Egypt.</p>
<p>Modern archaeologists have cast doubt on that version of events, and now DNA tests of Minoan remains suggests they were descended from ancient farmers who settled the islands thousands of years earlier.</p>
<p>These people, it is believed, are from the same stock that came from the East to populate the rest of Europe.</p>
<p>Evans set to work on Crete in 1900 with a team of archaeologists soon after the island was liberated from the yoke of the Ottoman empire, almost immediately unearthing a great palace.</p>
<p>He named the civilisation he discovered after the legendary Greek king Minos and, based on likenesses between Minoan artifacts and those from Egypt and Libya, proposed that its founders migrated into the area from North Africa.</p>
<p>Since then, other archaeologists have suggested that the Minoans may have come from other regions, possibly Turkey, the Balkans, or the Middle East.</p>
<p>But now a joint U.S. and Greek team has made a mitochondrial DNA analysis of Minoan skeletal remains to determine the likely ancestors of the ancient people.</p>
<p>Mitochondria, the energy powerhouses of cells, contain their own DNA, or genetic code, and because mitochondrial DNA is passed down from mothers to their children via the human egg, it contains information about maternal ancestry.</p>
<p>Findings suggest that the Minoan civilisation arose from the population already living in Crete, and that these people were probably descendants of the first humans to reach there about 9,000 years ago.</p>
<p>Further, they found, the remains have the greatest genetic similarity with modern European populations.</p>
<p>Senior researcher Dr George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington, said the analysis showed these people probably came to the area from the East, not the South.<br />
About 9,000 years ago there was an extensive migration of Neolithic humans from the regions of Anatolia that today comprise parts of Turkey and the Middle East,’ he said.</p>
<p>‘At the same time, the first Neolithic inhabitants reached Crete.</p>
<p>‘Our mitochondrial DNA analysis shows that the Minoans’ strongest genetic relationships are with these Neolithic humans, as well as with ancient and modern Europeans.</p>
<p>‘These results suggest the Minoan civilization arose 5,000 years ago in Crete from an ancestral Neolithic population that had arrived in the region about 4,000 years earlier.</p>
<p>‘Our data suggest that the Neolithic population that gave rise to the Minoans also migrated into Europe and gave rise to modern European peoples’<br />
George Stamatoyannopoulos, professor of medicine and genome sciences at the University of Washington</p>
<p>Dr Stamatoyannopoulos and his team analysed samples from 37 skeletons found in a cave in Crete’s Lassithi plateau and compared them with mitochondrial DNA sequences from 135 modern and ancient human populations.</p>
<p>The Minoan samples revealed 21 distinct mitochondrial DNA variations, of which six were unique to the Minoans and 15 were shared with modern and ancient populations.</p>
<p>None of the Minoans carried mitochondrial DNA variations characteristic of African populations.</p>
<p>Further analysis showed that the Minoans were only distantly related to Egyptian, Libyan, and other North African populations.</p>
<p>Indeed, the Minoan shared the greatest percentage of their mitochondrial DNA variation with European populations, especially those in Northern and Western Europe.</p>
<p>When plotted geographically, shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was lowest in North Africa and increased progressively across the Middle East, Caucasus, Mediterranean islands, Southern Europe, and mainland Europe.</p>
<p>The highest percentage of shared Minoan mitochondrial DNA variation was found with Neolithic populations from Southern Europe.</p>
<p>The analysis also showed a high degree of sharing with the current population of the Lassithi plateau and Greece.</p>
<p>In fact, the maternal genetic information passed down through many generations of mitochondria is still present in modern-day residents of the area where the Minoan skeletons were found.</p>
<p>Dr Stamatoyannopoulos said he believes that the findings highlight the importance of DNA analysis as a tool for understanding human history.</p>
<p>‘Genetic analyses are playing in increasingly important role and predicting and protecting human health,’ he said.</p>
<p>‘Our study underscores the importance of DNA not only in helping us to have healthier futures, but also to understand our past.’</p>
<p>&#8211; Yaffel Chucklebutty, WeBuiltThisCity, 16/5/2013 23:10<br />
That’s gonna be hard for the multi-cultural fascists to swallow! Another blow to their “Everyone came from Africa” philosophy.</p>
<p>&#8211; RT, Canada, 17/5/2013 1:53<br />
North Africans are mostly not even ethnically “Negroid”! They ARE Caucasian. Any kid in a World History class can tell you that! Just because these people were not “black” does not mean their civilization should now no longer be admired! Caucasian had to do with face bone structure not color. That’s why even if you took a person from North India and like spray tanned them very dark, they still wouldn’t look “black” because they are not negroid and thus do not have those facial features or the bone structure. The majority of the regions on Earth have people of the Caucasian race. This is nothing to hide or be ashamed of! The ancient Persians, Romans, Vikings, and Indians were all Caucasian. Not trying to be racist, but sorry if them not being black offends you.</p>
<p>&#8211; will26ww, USA, 17/5/2013 2:31<br />
If this is true we must never speak of it again. Caucasian is politically incorrect after all.</p>
<p>&#8211; Hooter, Atlanta, 17/5/2013 5:00<br />
Interesting. Neolithic and from the east…… I have a question.. are the Minoans related to the builders Göbekli Tepe? and perhaps Santorini?</p>
<p>&#8211; Hylian, Hyrule, United Kingdom, 17/5/2013 6:12<br />
The Pharaohs of Egypt were also Caucasian and the ruling kings of ancient China were also Caucasian, but this information has been hidden for some strange reason. Genghis Khan was Caucasian with red hair and green eyes.</p>
<p>&#8211; Arthur Daley, Paris, 17/5/2013 7:44<br />
“The Minoans were Caucasian”, says the headline. North Africans are also Caucasian, as indeed are Indians, so this ignorant headline is seriously misleading. The Minoans were European! @ kittycat1984 , Berkshire: “Archaeological digs are NOT sterile environments. Therefore any DNA extracted will be contaminated. It proves NOTHING”. I find your comment very funny. You don’t need a sterile environment to extract DNA, you can even do it in your kitchen. What you need are ways to remove contamination, and that’s exactly what we’ve got.</p>
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		Autor: bialczynski		</title>
		<link>https://bialczynski.pl/slowianie-tradycje-kultura-dzieje/dzieje/boski-ist-a-flagi-narodowe-slowian/#comment-262</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[W odpowiedzi do &lt;a href=&quot;https://bialczynski.pl/slowianie-tradycje-kultura-dzieje/dzieje/boski-ist-a-flagi-narodowe-slowian/#comment-261&quot;&gt;Botanik&lt;/a&gt;.

Troszeczkę głębiej proszę, bo te argumenty są zupełnie nie trafione. Chyba każdy wie, że cały Nowy Świat posługuje się barwami Starego Świata - Australia USA i tp, Chile, Panama. Liberia itp Afryka nabawiła się flag w okresie postkolonialnym. To coś świeżego u nich. Austria to kraj postsłowiański, Karantańsko-Rakoszański, Rakusko - jak mówią Czesi, jeżeli pan o tym nie wie to proszę poszperać w informacjach z Rzymu Starożytnego. Herby mają rodowód post-scytyjski, to byłe tamgi wojowników, a Scyci mają haplogrupę Y-DNA R1a, tak jak 70% Polaków. Coś da się podważyć w tym rozumowaniu? Celtowie są w Europie o 500-1000 lat później niż Ario-Słowianie, czyli Prasłowianie nazywani Scytami - proszę postudiować te tematy, w nawiązaniu do współczesnej genetyki. 

Zdania pejoratywne nie zgłębiwszy tematu wygłaszają tylko Lemingi i Dezinformatorzy. Pana wypowiedzi wskazują na co najmniej niedoinformowanie, jakby wiedza szkolna, podręcznikowa, czyli z lat 1960 -1980. Galijskie barwy pochodzą od scytyjskich, wiec Francuzami i Brytyjczykami nie da się Słowianom zaimponować.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>W odpowiedzi do <a href="https://bialczynski.pl/slowianie-tradycje-kultura-dzieje/dzieje/boski-ist-a-flagi-narodowe-slowian/#comment-261">Botanik</a>.</p>
<p>Troszeczkę głębiej proszę, bo te argumenty są zupełnie nie trafione. Chyba każdy wie, że cały Nowy Świat posługuje się barwami Starego Świata &#8211; Australia USA i tp, Chile, Panama. Liberia itp Afryka nabawiła się flag w okresie postkolonialnym. To coś świeżego u nich. Austria to kraj postsłowiański, Karantańsko-Rakoszański, Rakusko &#8211; jak mówią Czesi, jeżeli pan o tym nie wie to proszę poszperać w informacjach z Rzymu Starożytnego. Herby mają rodowód post-scytyjski, to byłe tamgi wojowników, a Scyci mają haplogrupę Y-DNA R1a, tak jak 70% Polaków. Coś da się podważyć w tym rozumowaniu? Celtowie są w Europie o 500-1000 lat później niż Ario-Słowianie, czyli Prasłowianie nazywani Scytami &#8211; proszę postudiować te tematy, w nawiązaniu do współczesnej genetyki. </p>
<p>Zdania pejoratywne nie zgłębiwszy tematu wygłaszają tylko Lemingi i Dezinformatorzy. Pana wypowiedzi wskazują na co najmniej niedoinformowanie, jakby wiedza szkolna, podręcznikowa, czyli z lat 1960 -1980. Galijskie barwy pochodzą od scytyjskich, wiec Francuzami i Brytyjczykami nie da się Słowianom zaimponować.</p>
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		Autor: Botanik		</title>
		<link>https://bialczynski.pl/slowianie-tradycje-kultura-dzieje/dzieje/boski-ist-a-flagi-narodowe-slowian/#comment-261</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Botanik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://bialczynski.pl/?page_id=400#comment-261</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[idąc dalej:
Stany Zjednoczone, Australia, Wielka Brytania, Chile, Liberia, Panama, Laos, Holandia - biały, czerwony, niebieski
Francja - biały, niebieski, czerwony
Kanada, Monako, Austria, Bahrajn, Cypr Północny, Singapur, Indonezja, Japonia - czerwono-biały
Somalia, ONZ, Nikaragua, Izrael - niebiesko-biały

Wszyscy jesteśmy Słowianami!
Kazda narodowość może zrobić dokładnie takie samo porównanie, bo barwy heraldyczne są stałe, podstawowe.

Przez takie artykuły wiarygodność leci na łeb i szyję.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>idąc dalej:<br />
Stany Zjednoczone, Australia, Wielka Brytania, Chile, Liberia, Panama, Laos, Holandia &#8211; biały, czerwony, niebieski<br />
Francja &#8211; biały, niebieski, czerwony<br />
Kanada, Monako, Austria, Bahrajn, Cypr Północny, Singapur, Indonezja, Japonia &#8211; czerwono-biały<br />
Somalia, ONZ, Nikaragua, Izrael &#8211; niebiesko-biały</p>
<p>Wszyscy jesteśmy Słowianami!<br />
Kazda narodowość może zrobić dokładnie takie samo porównanie, bo barwy heraldyczne są stałe, podstawowe.</p>
<p>Przez takie artykuły wiarygodność leci na łeb i szyję.</p>
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